Fuck. Me.

Jun. 12th, 2013 03:22 am
naamah_darling: Spotted hyena teeth. (Teeth)
Welp, the Beast, my laptop, won't come on.

It goes to the shop tomorrow. Hopefully it isn't down permanently. Hopefully it's just the power switch. The thumb drive I last used for backup is also not working.

So, don't know how much I'll be around for the next few days. My desktop is ailing in a major way, barely functional. I'm working on Sargon's laptop for now, but it won't handle the workload that mine did, and I can't do any graphics on it, so it's not a permanent fix.

Cross your fingers that the Beast can be fixed, and/or all my data can be retrieved. Cross your fingers I don't have to pay an arm and a leg, or totally replace the old girl.

Jesus fucking Christ. I'm less panicked than I would ordinarily be because our computer guy is fantastic, but . . . fucking hell.

(As usual, comments amounting to "get a Mac" and "don't run Windows" are not welcome. As in, don't do it, I'm in a pissy mood just now and might start waving the banhammer.)
naamah_darling: Cartoony picture of a black panther with curved horns and a red ball in his mouth. He wants to play. (Jandar Sad)
I am just not having a good time.

So, rueful laugh, I managed to lose/delete three pieces of digital artwork that were important to me in that they made me very happy and I was sort of proud of them.

One is the large version of my character portrait for Rukh Jandar. I have a smaller version of it on Flickr, so I'm sort of okay there.

One is the full version of my horned black panther icons, which are jandar-the-animal icons. I know I have a smaller version of it uploaded somewhere because I posted it in a comment in a community or on someone else's journal but I have no idea where or when that was, and can't find it in any of my photodump sites. I can't summon up the LJ notification email for that comment because that comment was never replied to.

And one is a drawing of an adorable little fennec catbunny thing called a kizza, from the same setting. I have no version of it anywhere, and cannot remember if I ever emailed it to the gaming group. And it's the one I am most upset about, because it was the best one.

I am not the sort to swear and kick things and throw stuff and yell and have a hissyfit, but I am so fucking displeased, seriously. I almost NEVER lose things like this. I have three thumb drives, a backup drive, and two computers. Most stuff is archived SOMEWHERE. I cannot remember, literally cannot remember, the last time I for-real lost a file.

Also, I went to get some beads to fix up a necklace I got (FOR JANDAR NO LESS) and got the wrong damn size of beads.

In our weekly game, Jandar's luck is . . . dreadful. I mean, really dreadful. Golan/Torin/Amaris/Sunder's luck is almost as bad, but is spread out over, like, three personalities, so Jandar's is probably still worse. It's such a notable effect that I wrote a parody song about what it's like when the dice fucking hate your character, but you are too stupid to kill him off and roll up another. (Dice of the Jandar, to the tune of Eye of the Tiger, and aside from the specific character reference in the chorus, it could apply to any campaign that fucks you and fucks you and then fucks you some more.)

And now Jandar's Luck is apparently spreading to real life.

I am not okay with this. I think maybe I need to get back to playing the guy who can roll below a seventy-five.

And right now, that guy is telling me to get my ass into bed. Sigh. I obey.

I want my friggin' kizza. And I am going to concentrate on that fiercely, so that I am not thinking about the other huge and important things I am missing and want back.

Goddamn, can it be next month already, pleeease?
naamah_darling: The Punisher skull with a red ribbon barrette. (Punisher Ribbon)
I'm going to ask y'all for a favor.

Please, please, please spread the word about this:

Paypal Strongarms Indie Ebook Publishers Over Erotic Content

Because, y'all? I have seen zero people, zero, on my f-list talk about it. Two people on Facebook. Granted, I've been dealing with this shit while very upset and my memory is not the greatest on the best of days, so I might have missed something, but still, this is unacceptable. Y'all care. I know you do. So please spread the word. If you can't do anything else, cut and paste and link back here.

I have been so tired, and so demoralized, and so, so hoping that someone else would have the spoons to speak up about this, to start the push back. Hoping that big-name authors would take notice, would care, would make the articulate, well-researched, exhaustively linked posts that help get people centered around an issue . . . the kind of posts that I am too busy just trying to survive to make in a timely fashion. And it's not happening. No letter-writing campaigns, no petitions, no call to arms.

Folks, that call to arms needs to happen. This is going to really hurt people like me, like my husband, who make our money writing erotica that brushes up against the bars. And by hurt, I mean this is how we pay for our heat, this is how we pay for our food, this is how we pay for my medication, this is how we scrape by. I don't mean "This is how we pay for our research vacations to Brazil." I am talking the basics of survival, here. I am not fucking around.

And if you don't give a shit about one crazy pornographer in the middle of nowhere, well, okay, fine. Be selfish. No, really. This will affect you. It has the potential to affect everyone. Every reader, every writer, if their interests verge even a little bit into grey territory.

And folks? A tremendous amount of fiction goes there. Stories and novels and anthologies by popular and award-winning authors like Neil Gaiman and Terri Windling and Laurell K. Hamilton and Sarah Monette and Cat Valente and on and on A through fucking Z would be right the fuck out. Also, the Bible. Not that I personally give a flying fuck, but it's ironically on the list of shit that you couldn't buy through PayPal, if they had to adhere to their own rules.

Mark Coker's first email from Smashwords explained:

Today we are modifying our Terms of Service to clarify our policies regarding erotic fiction that contains bestiality, rape and incest. . . .

I've had multiple conversations with PayPal over the last several days to better understand their requirements. Their team has been helpful, forthcoming and supportive of the Smashwords mission. I appreciate their willingness to engage in dialogue. Although they have tried their best to delineate their policies, gray areas remain.

Their hot buttons are bestiality, rape-for-titillation, incest and underage erotica.


Which all sounds pretty indefensible, but:

A) It's all ill-defined.

  • This applies to all incest, including step-relations, and is so ill-defined that it might apply to distant cousins. Goodbye, realistic depictions of inbreeding in noble families throughout history.

  • This applies to all "rape for titillation," which is so ill-defined that it might apply to romance-novel bodice-ripping, and it applies to all "non-consensual BDSM" which, while that should certainly be illegal in real life, is also ill-defined, and might be stretched to cover all sorts of situations. I'm personally into BDSM in real life and I can tell you that most people are remarkably closed-minded about BDSM and have demonstrated a particularly atrocious track record at recognizing that there even is a distinction between consensual and nonconsensual BDSM. People who don't like it don't like it in any form, and they will try to shove it all into the box marked "rape."

  • This applies to all "bestiality," which specifically excludes fully-shifted shapeshifters and is furthermore so ill-defined that it might apply to gorgons, centaurs, sphinxes, and other mythical beasts that possess animal or partially animal bodies and human-level consciousness.

    B) We have to defend the indefensible, even if we do not like it. I don't care if it is the absolute worst and most horrible thing you have ever seen in your life, it is not PayPal's job to tell us what we can and cannot do with our money. If it is not against the law to buy or create it in the United States, i.e., if it is protected under freedom of speech, nobody has the right to tell us that we cannot create it or sell it or buy it. Not PayPal, not the banks, not Santa Claus, nobody.*


  • This started with Smashwords. I want to be clear, here, that Smashwords is not the villain, and Mark Coker has been working tirelessly to achieve some sort of détente whereby we can all carry on and profit without too much disruption. He despises the idea of censorship, but severing relations with PayPal would take time, and some sort of solution must be found in the meantime so that authors, who need to get paid by Smashwords, can keep selling. He is doing exactly the right thing, and I fully support his approach.

    It started with Smashwords, but it won't end with Smashwords.

    True, the big-name authors that you are likely to care about far more than you care about me and the rest of my porn-spewing ilk mostly don't publish through Smashwords, though some make their backlist available there. No, you probably aren't paying through PayPal when you buy their books. But this isn't just about who-gives-a-shit indie authors writing their dirty stepdaddy porn.

    It is about PayPal. PayPal says this is the banks' fault. That it's the banks putting pressure on them, so they're pressuring Smashwords and other indie outfits. And if that's true, we have a major fucking problem, because banks should not and cannot be allowed to do that. If that's true, that connection needs to be dragged into the light so that everyone can see it for what it is.

    Even if it's not true and it's just some asshole at PayPal with a burr up his ass, we have a major fucking problem. PayPal is huge, and the revenue streams for thousands of independent artists and authors get funneled through it. If they start telling us what we can and cannot put out there to sell, what we can and cannot buy, well . . . if you can't see there's a huge problem there, I honestly don't know if I can help you, and you might want to just go lie down for a while and hope the denseness passes.

    So I am asking you: please spread the word, please get people talking about this, please keep your readers, even if there are only two, abreast of this issue. And please, if you're an author with one of the big publishing houses, please, please post about this. In fact, if you know such an author, please ask them to post about it.

    I am not advocating spamming authors. I don't want to make people mad. But I want this exposed. I want people talking about this. I want acknowledgement from big-name authors that this shit matters, and I want to know that they are behind us, the way we have been behind them as fans and fellow authors.

    I am just asking that if you have a means of politely contacting them and asking them to weigh in on the issue, you do so. Twitter is good, comments are good, emails are good. Whatever, even if it's just a retweet. Please.

    This is not just about incestuous underage dog-rape porn, okay? Who the hell would rally to protect that? Nobody. Which is the problem, here. People glance at the issue and they see indefensible garbage, and they move on.

    That is a smokescreen! This is not about that crap. This is about people with no familiarity with genre fiction, with erotica, with the outer boundaries of sexual fantasy, being allowed to dictate how we express ourselves. This is about those people deciding where the line gets drawn between okay and not okay. This is not a new thing, though this crackdown is new, a new push against "obscene" content that previously nobody gave a shit about. They've already proven that they decide where the line is and that they can move it anytime they like; that they are doing this represents a shifting of that line. This is about being told what we can and cannot publish, and can and cannot buy. It affects everyone. And that should scare the shit out of you.

    And while we're at it, let's discuss that indefensible incestuous underage dog-rape porn. It's sick, and I don't write it, and I don't want to read it, and if a given indie self-pub outlet wants to say "we will not allow people to publish that through us" I suppose I am very grudgingly okay with that. But if a bank – and that is really how PayPal works, as a bank for e-commerce – wants to tell me that I cannot buy that stuff, THAT IS NOT OKAY. I will spend my money any goddamned fucking way I see fit. They have crossed the line. We need to unfuck this situation.

    And, final note, we need to discuss how to support independent authors and artists through this, because boycotting PayPal is going to hurt us. Frankly, I have no idea how to go about this, I am barely able to keep my own head above water, let alone think long and hard about how to fix the sinking ship, but I sure as shit hope that we can. I'm willing to suffer for the cause, yes, but I am not willing to go without my drugs for however long this would take to settle out. So we need to be talking about how to take care of one another, how to support each other, while still effecting change.

    I entered into the devil's bargain with PayPal because I had no other choice. No, you in the back smugly stroking your sense of superiority through your fashionably unfashionable pants, I did not have another choice. I needed, and still need, to make money, and that means 1) getting my stuff in front of people and 2) making it easy for those people to pay me for it. That is what sites like Etsy and Smashwords do. They make it easy for me to get my stuff out there and get it sold and get myself paid. As I have said repeatedly over the past few days, I cannot afford to abstain on principle. They are a luxury I am too poor and too screwed and too uninsured and too mentally ill to afford. I don't make much off my bargain with this company, but I need every fucking penny of it. So much so that I am terrified that if I post this, PayPal will suspend my account as punishment. Because I can't afford for that to happen. I need the security they allow me to provide for myself.

    What I do not need? This five-day headache with PayPal's name on it. The indifference of people – big-name, small-name, no-name – whose voices, if raised, could maybe make a difference. The assumption that indie publishing isn't important and that stuff put out through independent channels isn't any good and that I must, therefore, be trying to defend something worthless and indefensible. The assumption that this is only about indie publishing, and the assumption that this is only about porn – really sick porn at that.

    This is about freedom, and for some of us, it is about survival.

    Paypal email addresses and phone numbers, should you wish to talk about this with someone there. This is old info -- if anyone has anything better, I will post that instead -- but it's better than the on-site contact stuff, which is routed through overseas response centers. Please speak out, BE POLITE, be articulate, be reasonable, and be firm.

    FYI, I will be moderating comments on this post with a heavy hand. I doubt it will be necessary, but I want productive conversation, not bickering. If you don't agree that this is a problem, I ask politely that you move on. We've nothing to say to one another.

    Also, yes, I swear a lot. If you feel inclined to say that this is hurting my case, I invite you to think very carefully about the core of this issue, and what relevance it may have to what you are about to say.

    * I am not arguing with anyone about whether or not PayPal has the right, as a private company, to make up bullshit rules. They technically do, but they have a virtual monopoly on payments made through the internet, they are deeply connected to the big banks, and allowing them to do this sets a hideously dangerous precedent. If the government cannot censor or suppress "obscene" content without those uppity free-speechers getting all riled up, well, private companies can do it. Right? Yeah. I'm not on board with that.
    naamah_darling: A wolf with its jaws wide open, and FUCK! written between them. (Fuck!)
    I've got a friend in the hospital that I am terribly worried about (the fact that I won't talk more is out of respect for someone else's privacy, not my lack of concern; I'm really fucking worried) and our car just got totaled! We weren't in it at the time, thank goodness. It was parked, and some cowardly and likely drunk asshole creamed it and then drove off. Never even saw them.

    This is the car that we just tagged because we got a ticket because they never sent us the renewal notification. So, yeah, we're going to have to pay a ticket for a car we don't have.

    So, you know, fuck this shit. I'm going to have a cheeseburger and a root beer and a cookie and then go to bed and hopefully have awesome, awesome dreams about sexing up James Purefoy, like I did last night. And tomorrow I will get up and start sorting through our shit for cool things we can sell, and gather up all the finished art I have and try to take pictures, since I'm still too fucked to be able to make any NEW art. And boy, that makes everything hurt just a little more.

    Bright side: looks like we're having a virtual garage sale! I will let you know whatall is going up, but right away I can tell you that I'll be selling a crapton of BPAL, a signed Wendy Pini print, possibly a Goldenwolfen/Christy Grandjean original ink drawing, three or four pirate corsets from Damsel In This Dress, a pair of leather boots, and an antique black seal fur coat. So, you know, lots of pretty cool shit.

    As Sargon said: "Jesus Christ, I wish I could spend a hero point and have today NOT HAVE HAPPENED FOR ANYONE."

    It could have been a lot worse. My friends had a worse day, I know that, and I feel horrible and so worried. I feel guilty for even complaining, given the shit they're going through. But . . . Jesus. I have under a hundred bucks in my bank account, and no goddamn car, and I can't even guarantee I can help them because . . . no car!

    This is a horrible thing to say, but at least my favorite cat is already dead. I miss her. It feels like forever. One month ago today.

    Would really, really appreciate good vibes for my friends right now. And maybe a de-cursing on this whole motherfucking year.
    naamah_darling: A wolf with its jaws wide open, and FUCK! written between them. (Fuck!)
    I've got a friend in the hospital that I am terribly worried about (the fact that I won't talk more is out of respect for someone else's privacy, not my lack of concern; I'm really fucking worried) and our car just got totaled! We weren't in it at the time, thank goodness. It was parked, and some cowardly and likely drunk asshole creamed it and then drove off. Never even saw them.

    This is the car that we just tagged because we got a ticket because they never sent us the renewal notification. So, yeah, we're going to have to pay a ticket for a car we don't have.

    So, you know, fuck this shit. I'm going to have a cheeseburger and a root beer and a cookie and then go to bed and hopefully have awesome, awesome dreams about sexing up James Purefoy, like I did last night. And tomorrow I will get up and start sorting through our shit for cool things we can sell, and gather up all the finished art I have and try to take pictures, since I'm still too fucked to be able to make any NEW art. And boy, that makes everything hurt just a little more.

    Bright side: looks like we're having a virtual garage sale! I will let you know whatall is going up, but right away I can tell you that I'll be selling a crapton of BPAL, a signed Wendy Pini print, possibly a Goldenwolfen/Christy Grandjean original ink drawing, three or four pirate corsets from Damsel In This Dress, a pair of leather boots, and an antique black seal fur coat. So, you know, lots of pretty cool shit.

    As Sargon said: "Jesus Christ, I wish I could spend a hero point and have today NOT HAVE HAPPENED FOR ANYONE."

    It could have been a lot worse. My friends had a worse day, I know that, and I feel horrible and so worried. I feel guilty for even complaining, given the shit they're going through. But . . . Jesus. I have under a hundred bucks in my bank account, and no goddamn car, and I can't even guarantee I can help them because . . . no car!

    This is a horrible thing to say, but at least my favorite cat is already dead. I miss her. It feels like forever. One month ago today.

    Would really, really appreciate good vibes for my friends right now. And maybe a de-cursing on this whole motherfucking year.
    naamah_darling: The right-side canines of a wolf's skull; the upper canine is made of gold. (Angry)
    I don't have the best camera in the world. It's a Canon Powershot A1000, it's not for professional photographers or anything, it's a point-and-shoot, I get that.

    But why in the fucking fuckhell is there not a remote shutter release made for it? I shouldn't have to own a $600 digital SLR camera -- I shouldn't have to buy a new camera AT ALL -- to have access to this really basic fucking function. I want to take pictures from my tripod without camera shake, that's ALL. Do they assume that users of my camera are too stupid and incompetent to WANT this feature? You can't even say they want you to buy the more expensive camera -- the price difference is so great I really, really don't think there'd be any overlap.

    Yes, I probably will eventually want a digital SLR camera to take more professional looking pictures of my stuff with, and to shoot some outdoor and portrait stuff. I don't have the money for that, and am not even 100% sure that I would find it so useful it would justify the expense, though. Why can I not have the tools to make the best of the camera I HAVE?

    "But wait!" says the internet. "There's firmware hacks that will enable homemade remotes to work with your camera."

    I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO UPDATE MY CAMERA'S CUNTPUNCHING SOFTWARE OR ENGAGE IN AMATEUR ELECTRONICS JUST TO HAVE ACCESS TO A BASIC FUCKING ACCESSORY. Because guess what? I don't trust or understand software/firmware hacks, which might damage the camera I can't, you know, fucking afford to replace, and I don't understand electronics, which is really cool but unfortunately falls into a mental grey area of stuff that is really fucking hard for me to understand even the basics of. It's not zany DIY, hack-your-way-to-greatness fun, it's fucking torture, like math class. Like, wiring a single LED is too much for me. PATHETIC I KNOW.

    But I have other shit to do with my goddamn time.

    *SIGH*

    I'd probably go ahead and deal with the firmware hack, if I could find someone to make me a USB remote trigger that will work with it, but checking the site, THERE'S NO HACK FOR MY MODEL. Just a beta version that might fuck shit up.

    NICE.

    My mom used to accuse me of wanting life on a silver platter. I don't. I just want things to be REASONABLE.
    naamah_darling: The right-side canines of a wolf's skull; the upper canine is made of gold. (Angry)
    I don't have the best camera in the world. It's a Canon Powershot A1000, it's not for professional photographers or anything, it's a point-and-shoot, I get that.

    But why in the fucking fuckhell is there not a remote shutter release made for it? I shouldn't have to own a $600 digital SLR camera -- I shouldn't have to buy a new camera AT ALL -- to have access to this really basic fucking function. I want to take pictures from my tripod without camera shake, that's ALL. Do they assume that users of my camera are too stupid and incompetent to WANT this feature? You can't even say they want you to buy the more expensive camera -- the price difference is so great I really, really don't think there'd be any overlap.

    Yes, I probably will eventually want a digital SLR camera to take more professional looking pictures of my stuff with, and to shoot some outdoor and portrait stuff. I don't have the money for that, and am not even 100% sure that I would find it so useful it would justify the expense, though. Why can I not have the tools to make the best of the camera I HAVE?

    "But wait!" says the internet. "There's firmware hacks that will enable homemade remotes to work with your camera."

    I SHOULD NOT HAVE TO UPDATE MY CAMERA'S CUNTPUNCHING SOFTWARE OR ENGAGE IN AMATEUR ELECTRONICS JUST TO HAVE ACCESS TO A BASIC FUCKING ACCESSORY. Because guess what? I don't trust or understand software/firmware hacks, which might damage the camera I can't, you know, fucking afford to replace, and I don't understand electronics, which is really cool but unfortunately falls into a mental grey area of stuff that is really fucking hard for me to understand even the basics of. It's not zany DIY, hack-your-way-to-greatness fun, it's fucking torture, like math class. Like, wiring a single LED is too much for me. PATHETIC I KNOW.

    But I have other shit to do with my goddamn time.

    *SIGH*

    I'd probably go ahead and deal with the firmware hack, if I could find someone to make me a USB remote trigger that will work with it, but checking the site, THERE'S NO HACK FOR MY MODEL. Just a beta version that might fuck shit up.

    NICE.

    My mom used to accuse me of wanting life on a silver platter. I don't. I just want things to be REASONABLE.
    naamah_darling: The right-side canines of a wolf's skull; the upper canine is made of gold. (Default)
    I can't bring myself to support shitsucking corporate parasites like this "Dina" at United.

    I know that [livejournal.com profile] cleolinda has already lit up the intarwebs with her summary of it, but I figure I have a fuckton of readers, and you should all know about this.

    United Airlines pulled some truly heinous shit on [livejournal.com profile] evilpuppy, who required nothing more of them than a wheelchair and assistance stowing a bag, and got pretty much shit treatment start to finish. This should not be allowed to pass.

    I can't even summarize it. The fuckery is just too mind-boggling, and it goes on and on.

    They are "trying to reach" the customer to apologize, but I don't think we should let up the pressure. Airlines have reached a fucking ridiculous level of customer non-service, and this simply cannot be tolerated. What apology can make up for behavior of this sort? How do you make up for something like this?

    Spread the word on your journals, on Twitter @unitedairlines, or contact them directly.

    Company Contacts:
    Graham Atkinson (United Airlines Executive Vice President and Chief Customer Officer)
    Fax: 1-847-700-3451
    graham.atkinson@united.com
    naamah_darling: The right-side canines of a wolf's skull; the upper canine is made of gold. (Default)
    I can't bring myself to support shitsucking corporate parasites like this "Dina" at United.

    I know that [livejournal.com profile] cleolinda has already lit up the intarwebs with her summary of it, but I figure I have a fuckton of readers, and you should all know about this.

    United Airlines pulled some truly heinous shit on [livejournal.com profile] evilpuppy, who required nothing more of them than a wheelchair and assistance stowing a bag, and got pretty much shit treatment start to finish. This should not be allowed to pass.

    I can't even summarize it. The fuckery is just too mind-boggling, and it goes on and on.

    They are "trying to reach" the customer to apologize, but I don't think we should let up the pressure. Airlines have reached a fucking ridiculous level of customer non-service, and this simply cannot be tolerated. What apology can make up for behavior of this sort? How do you make up for something like this?

    Spread the word on your journals, on Twitter @unitedairlines, or contact them directly.

    Company Contacts:
    Graham Atkinson (United Airlines Executive Vice President and Chief Customer Officer)
    Fax: 1-847-700-3451
    graham.atkinson@united.com
    naamah_darling: Lucian from Underworld next to a snarling wolf. From the dark into the black, throwbacks always have to go. (Lucian Throwbacks)
    Rape is a "pre-existing condition." Enjoy maybe getting AIDS.

    Sometimes I want to resign from the human race just for the pleasure of saying "I have nothing in common with you shitfuckers. I hope you die in agony. Alone. Except for those 3d6 priapic wild pigs."

    You can claim that those mule-felching piles of assvomit are not human all you like and that won't make it true. They are human, and that is the most disgusting part of this. You can't just stand up, point, and say in outrage: "Get away from me you pile of shit! I am chocolate!" They are human, you are human, we are all human. You share that with them, whether you like it or not.

    As humanity is not something you have to earn, the label isn't reserved only for the best of us. That's part of the point that women and people of color and people with disabilities or mental illnesses and fat people and queer people are always trying to make. That you can't bestow or deny humanity, that we have that without asking, and that it cannot be taken away. So I can't say they aren't human, even though they obviously lack the constellation of traits (decency, charity, compassion) that we have come to call "humanity."

    Why we call it "humanity" when most of our species is by that definition inhumane in the extreme is quite beyond me.

    If I really were a werewolf, instead of a crazy person with a damn good metaphor, I would be taking great comfort in my inhumanity right about now.
    naamah_darling: Lucian from Underworld next to a snarling wolf. From the dark into the black, throwbacks always have to go. (Lucian Throwbacks)
    Rape is a "pre-existing condition." Enjoy maybe getting AIDS.

    Sometimes I want to resign from the human race just for the pleasure of saying "I have nothing in common with you shitfuckers. I hope you die in agony. Alone. Except for those 3d6 priapic wild pigs."

    You can claim that those mule-felching piles of assvomit are not human all you like and that won't make it true. They are human, and that is the most disgusting part of this. You can't just stand up, point, and say in outrage: "Get away from me you pile of shit! I am chocolate!" They are human, you are human, we are all human. You share that with them, whether you like it or not.

    As humanity is not something you have to earn, the label isn't reserved only for the best of us. That's part of the point that women and people of color and people with disabilities or mental illnesses and fat people and queer people are always trying to make. That you can't bestow or deny humanity, that we have that without asking, and that it cannot be taken away. So I can't say they aren't human, even though they obviously lack the constellation of traits (decency, charity, compassion) that we have come to call "humanity."

    Why we call it "humanity" when most of our species is by that definition inhumane in the extreme is quite beyond me.

    If I really were a werewolf, instead of a crazy person with a damn good metaphor, I would be taking great comfort in my inhumanity right about now.
    naamah_darling: The right-side canines of a wolf's skull; the upper canine is made of gold. (Alpha Female)
    The Sodomite Hal Duncan has a wonderful letter to share with you all this fine Friday afternoon.

    My own letter is below.

    To Mr. Wright,

    Two things, before I begin.

    First, if people have attacked you for your religious views, I don't approve of that. I am an atheist, not an anti-theist. As easy as it is to take pot shots, I cannot insult you for your beliefs without also insulting people I love.

    Second, I had not heard about the incident with your wife until after discovering your entry. Going into what I think of that issue would not be appropriate here; I merely wished to point out that I'm not part of the mob that descended on her, lest you believe that everyone who took you to task is simply nursing a grudge from that whole affair. That's all I have to say on the matter.

    Moving on, I was not the only person to link to that entry, but I concede I was one of the first, and my readership, for reasons I have never quite understood, is wide. I never would have called out your appalling remarks had you not been a published author whose books I have purchased in hardcover, and as gifts for others. You aren't a random dipshit on the internet yodeling into the vacuum of his own ass. You are a published writer in a field I love, and thus you are a person of whom I had stupidly assumed better. As someone who does not apply her money or loyalty to those who believe that I or my loved ones are perverted or defective, I felt betrayed.

    If gay and gay-friendly folks choose to support you despite your views, that is their choice, but I believe they deserve to make an informed choice. That's why I pointed them your way. The fact that I pointed 1,500 people your way while saying "fuck" a lot is just how I do things. Because if we don't laugh and make fun of people who use ridiculous arguments to deny the validity of our relationships and the humanity of our brilliant, brief lives, well, that would just be too depressing.

    It is unfortunate that the people who came to comment on your journal were angry, and not up to your desired level of discourse. I asked them not to troll, and apparently I misjudged their restraint. That was an error on my part. I didn't rile them, though. You did that on your own. Your words were offensive. Your words were hurtful. When a person says offensive, hurtful things, those who hear will lash out. When compared to pedophiles and necrophiliacs, they will come in mobs and be downright cruel. This is not the most wonderful facet of human nature, but nor is it proof that you were right all along or that everyone who disagrees with you is an illogical maniac with no internal censor. When those people bitchslapped you for being offensive, that was proof that what you said was offensive. Your own words condemned you, and as many of us have taken screenshots of the original entry, they will continue to do so.

    The fact that you were mobbed -- "trolled" does not apply to most of the comments, most of which were expressing genuine disgust and displeasure, and were not being made, as they say, for the lulz -- does not free you from the offense you gave. When you say something offensive and are called on it, even if the people you have offended are rude to you, you take responsibility for the harm you caused, you apologize, and then you listen to how you can do better. You turn the other cheek, not so you can show people how smooth and righteous it is, but to show that you are willing to listen, to put the hurt done to you behind you. You swallow your pride and you listen. Which, you know, I would have done, save that there was nothing to learn from your words. It was just more of the same fearmongering fags-as-monsters bullshit.

    I'm not under the illusion you were just misunderstood, or your words taken out of context. You clearly hate and fear homosexuality, even if you probably wouldn't say you hate homosexual individuals (we'll leave the stupidity of that alone for now, and the matter of your own hypocrisy re: perversions). Love the sinner, hate the sin, blah blah blah. But you have been complaining about how rude and nasty and profane people have been. You've been using others' entirely justifiable anger to dismiss what they are saying, because you don't like how they say it. The tone argument. They aren't being respectful enough of you while you insult them. Your journal, you don't have to put up with people swearing at you or mobbing you, but it makes you look like an asshole to venomously insult a group of people that includes many of your fans and their loved ones, and then get all butthurt when they let you have both barrels in return. If nothing else, this should serve as a lesson to just how many of us there are, and that we are listening.

    After comparing homosexuality to a litany of completely repellent nonconsensual crimes, you have no real grounds on which to complain about what anyone said to you. True, they said it in a great, rage-filled mass, but I will point out that each of those individuals felt personally wounded, personally hurt enough to comment and tell you exactly what they thought of your reprehensible screed. For them, your characterization of homosexuality as akin to bestiality, necrophilia, pedophilia, was not some abstract thing. You were talking about them, about people they know. Many -- self included -- actually held back or didn't comment at all. You're entitled to your opinion, hate-filled and foolish as it may be. Many might have engaged you in debate except for the fact that it was -- and is -- clear that your mind is tightly made up, the justifications you use for not listening so perfectly constructed as to allow no argument to penetrate.

    Would you argue if you saw a published author whose works you own making ridiculous and stupid statements about Catholics? Called you lot baby-eaters, claimed that you engaged in incestuous orgies in secret temples, had congress with animals, and offered up the corpses of virgins for the carnal delights of your depraved priesthood? Would you engage such blatant stupidity in rational debate?

    Adults do not answer the petty name-calling of a schoolyard bully with elaborate explanations of why we are not stinky dirty poopy-heads. That would be dignifying it with a response, which it does not deserve. You aren't a child, though. You are in a prominent position, and gay people and their friends pay to read your work, so we can't just ignore what you think of us or let it pass.

    Protesting that you didn't mean your offensive words to reach so wide an audience is such foolishness I can't respond beyond pointing out your age. Few people actually mean to make enormous fools of themselves. They figure nobody's paying attention. But you are a published author on the internet, accessible to all of fandom. Your words can never be assumed to reach a small audience, and you aren't talking about abstracts solely to people who agree with you. You are insulting real people who are or who love someone who is gay. To those people, being anti-gay makes you look stupid no matter your reasoning. Defending or advancing that stance with blatant nonsense only means they will be more inclined to tell you to drop dead while throat-fucking a rabid weasel than actually try to educate you (which is not our duty, I might add, but yours) or debate with you.

    If you want to argue the point, shore up your logic and start dealing with facts, stop regurgitating the same garbage. It's the internet. It's all computers. The rule of 5150, shit in, shit out, applies here. If you spout ignorant, hateful bullshit, you will get hateful bullshit in return.

    I am posting this with comments disabled. This is not cowardice. I have no real desire to invite you to converse here, where such views as yours are not welcome, but I also have no real desire to allow the carnival of wank to continue in comments on my journal. That would simply make more work for me without putting people's scorn in front of you. If people want to register their displeasure with you, they can go to your journal to do it. If they wish to register their displeasure with me, there are many other entries where they can do so. I thought I would let this stand alone, a letter to you, in case you cared to read it.

    I'm not holding my breath, but I hope that you will find some people to debate with you and perhaps help educate you. I hope that you will change your views. I personally suspect the damage has been done, and I know I won't ever have anything to do with you or your work again. I regret I ever did.

    I am a generous woman, or try to be. I would wish you well, but I find the most I can wish you is wisdom, and a clearer vision. Those are not, as anyone who lives in interesting times will tell you, always pleasant things.

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    naamah_darling: The right-side canines of a wolf's skull; the upper canine is made of gold. (Alpha Female)
    The Sodomite Hal Duncan has a wonderful letter to share with you all this fine Friday afternoon.

    My own letter is below.

    To Mr. Wright,

    Two things, before I begin.

    First, if people have attacked you for your religious views, I don't approve of that. I am an atheist, not an anti-theist. As easy as it is to take pot shots, I cannot insult you for your beliefs without also insulting people I love.

    Second, I had not heard about the incident with your wife until after discovering your entry. Going into what I think of that issue would not be appropriate here; I merely wished to point out that I'm not part of the mob that descended on her, lest you believe that everyone who took you to task is simply nursing a grudge from that whole affair. That's all I have to say on the matter.

    Moving on, I was not the only person to link to that entry, but I concede I was one of the first, and my readership, for reasons I have never quite understood, is wide. I never would have called out your appalling remarks had you not been a published author whose books I have purchased in hardcover, and as gifts for others. You aren't a random dipshit on the internet yodeling into the vacuum of his own ass. You are a published writer in a field I love, and thus you are a person of whom I had stupidly assumed better. As someone who does not apply her money or loyalty to those who believe that I or my loved ones are perverted or defective, I felt betrayed.

    If gay and gay-friendly folks choose to support you despite your views, that is their choice, but I believe they deserve to make an informed choice. That's why I pointed them your way. The fact that I pointed 1,500 people your way while saying "fuck" a lot is just how I do things. Because if we don't laugh and make fun of people who use ridiculous arguments to deny the validity of our relationships and the humanity of our brilliant, brief lives, well, that would just be too depressing.

    It is unfortunate that the people who came to comment on your journal were angry, and not up to your desired level of discourse. I asked them not to troll, and apparently I misjudged their restraint. That was an error on my part. I didn't rile them, though. You did that on your own. Your words were offensive. Your words were hurtful. When a person says offensive, hurtful things, those who hear will lash out. When compared to pedophiles and necrophiliacs, they will come in mobs and be downright cruel. This is not the most wonderful facet of human nature, but nor is it proof that you were right all along or that everyone who disagrees with you is an illogical maniac with no internal censor. When those people bitchslapped you for being offensive, that was proof that what you said was offensive. Your own words condemned you, and as many of us have taken screenshots of the original entry, they will continue to do so.

    The fact that you were mobbed -- "trolled" does not apply to most of the comments, most of which were expressing genuine disgust and displeasure, and were not being made, as they say, for the lulz -- does not free you from the offense you gave. When you say something offensive and are called on it, even if the people you have offended are rude to you, you take responsibility for the harm you caused, you apologize, and then you listen to how you can do better. You turn the other cheek, not so you can show people how smooth and righteous it is, but to show that you are willing to listen, to put the hurt done to you behind you. You swallow your pride and you listen. Which, you know, I would have done, save that there was nothing to learn from your words. It was just more of the same fearmongering fags-as-monsters bullshit.

    I'm not under the illusion you were just misunderstood, or your words taken out of context. You clearly hate and fear homosexuality, even if you probably wouldn't say you hate homosexual individuals (we'll leave the stupidity of that alone for now, and the matter of your own hypocrisy re: perversions). Love the sinner, hate the sin, blah blah blah. But you have been complaining about how rude and nasty and profane people have been. You've been using others' entirely justifiable anger to dismiss what they are saying, because you don't like how they say it. The tone argument. They aren't being respectful enough of you while you insult them. Your journal, you don't have to put up with people swearing at you or mobbing you, but it makes you look like an asshole to venomously insult a group of people that includes many of your fans and their loved ones, and then get all butthurt when they let you have both barrels in return. If nothing else, this should serve as a lesson to just how many of us there are, and that we are listening.

    After comparing homosexuality to a litany of completely repellent nonconsensual crimes, you have no real grounds on which to complain about what anyone said to you. True, they said it in a great, rage-filled mass, but I will point out that each of those individuals felt personally wounded, personally hurt enough to comment and tell you exactly what they thought of your reprehensible screed. For them, your characterization of homosexuality as akin to bestiality, necrophilia, pedophilia, was not some abstract thing. You were talking about them, about people they know. Many -- self included -- actually held back or didn't comment at all. You're entitled to your opinion, hate-filled and foolish as it may be. Many might have engaged you in debate except for the fact that it was -- and is -- clear that your mind is tightly made up, the justifications you use for not listening so perfectly constructed as to allow no argument to penetrate.

    Would you argue if you saw a published author whose works you own making ridiculous and stupid statements about Catholics? Called you lot baby-eaters, claimed that you engaged in incestuous orgies in secret temples, had congress with animals, and offered up the corpses of virgins for the carnal delights of your depraved priesthood? Would you engage such blatant stupidity in rational debate?

    Adults do not answer the petty name-calling of a schoolyard bully with elaborate explanations of why we are not stinky dirty poopy-heads. That would be dignifying it with a response, which it does not deserve. You aren't a child, though. You are in a prominent position, and gay people and their friends pay to read your work, so we can't just ignore what you think of us or let it pass.

    Protesting that you didn't mean your offensive words to reach so wide an audience is such foolishness I can't respond beyond pointing out your age. Few people actually mean to make enormous fools of themselves. They figure nobody's paying attention. But you are a published author on the internet, accessible to all of fandom. Your words can never be assumed to reach a small audience, and you aren't talking about abstracts solely to people who agree with you. You are insulting real people who are or who love someone who is gay. To those people, being anti-gay makes you look stupid no matter your reasoning. Defending or advancing that stance with blatant nonsense only means they will be more inclined to tell you to drop dead while throat-fucking a rabid weasel than actually try to educate you (which is not our duty, I might add, but yours) or debate with you.

    If you want to argue the point, shore up your logic and start dealing with facts, stop regurgitating the same garbage. It's the internet. It's all computers. The rule of 5150, shit in, shit out, applies here. If you spout ignorant, hateful bullshit, you will get hateful bullshit in return.

    I am posting this with comments disabled. This is not cowardice. I have no real desire to invite you to converse here, where such views as yours are not welcome, but I also have no real desire to allow the carnival of wank to continue in comments on my journal. That would simply make more work for me without putting people's scorn in front of you. If people want to register their displeasure with you, they can go to your journal to do it. If they wish to register their displeasure with me, there are many other entries where they can do so. I thought I would let this stand alone, a letter to you, in case you cared to read it.

    I'm not holding my breath, but I hope that you will find some people to debate with you and perhaps help educate you. I hope that you will change your views. I personally suspect the damage has been done, and I know I won't ever have anything to do with you or your work again. I regret I ever did.

    I am a generous woman, or try to be. I would wish you well, but I find the most I can wish you is wisdom, and a clearer vision. Those are not, as anyone who lives in interesting times will tell you, always pleasant things.

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    naamah_darling: The right-side canines of a wolf's skull; the upper canine is made of gold. (Gay Apocalypse!)
    He's edited his entry and turned off comments. The edit is probably one of the funnier yet simultaneously sad things I've seen on the internet thus far. You should definitely go read it. I lol-ed. For so many reasons, I lol-ed. ETA: He's deleted the original entry.

    He's apparently bent out of shape that we weren't arguing the way he would prefer, or kissing up. We're just a bunch of vulgar morons who would rather swear and make love with our faces than engage in some jolly good intellectual debate, by thunder. For shame, all of you, for upsetting this fine man. For shame.

    I was willing to let it go, but he threw out a phrase so delightful that I just cannot resist. You see, apparently we are just a bunch of idolaters, bowing down to, and I quote:

    The child-eating Moloch of political correctness!





    Please, by all means supply your own child-eating Moloch pics in comments. If you can improve on my two-minute Photoshop mashup, feel free.
    naamah_darling: The right-side canines of a wolf's skull; the upper canine is made of gold. (Gay Apocalypse!)
    He's edited his entry and turned off comments. The edit is probably one of the funnier yet simultaneously sad things I've seen on the internet thus far. You should definitely go read it. I lol-ed. For so many reasons, I lol-ed. ETA: He's deleted the original entry.

    He's apparently bent out of shape that we weren't arguing the way he would prefer, or kissing up. We're just a bunch of vulgar morons who would rather swear and make love with our faces than engage in some jolly good intellectual debate, by thunder. For shame, all of you, for upsetting this fine man. For shame.

    I was willing to let it go, but he threw out a phrase so delightful that I just cannot resist. You see, apparently we are just a bunch of idolaters, bowing down to, and I quote:

    The child-eating Moloch of political correctness!





    Please, by all means supply your own child-eating Moloch pics in comments. If you can improve on my two-minute Photoshop mashup, feel free.
    naamah_darling: The right-side canines of a wolf's skull; the upper canine is made of gold. (Gay Agenda)
    John C. Wright, aka [livejournal.com profile] johncwright.

    It is completely up to you if you want to buy books written by this guy after reading what he thinks about homosexuality.

    ETA: he deleted the original entry.

    On another note not related to the above in any way, I've got several hardcover books I don't want anymore. The books are in good shape, so I'm trying to think of a meaningful application for them. Like cutting them apart and using them to compose stories about gay perverts fucking. Or should I make them into hollow book boxes to hold my rosary of anal beads and my baby Jesus butt-plug? What do you all think?

    In the meantime, I really have to make an appointment to assrape a dead goat with a crucifix strap-on in front of some schoolchildren. Like, soon. I have to commit obscene and corrupting acts or my pervert card lapses and I won't be able to get in on all the good cocaine-fueled mule-fucking pedophilia and abortion parties. I hear Hillary Clinton goes to those, and that she's a real cougar. Grrrowl.

    Also, whoever has my homosex indoctrination DVDs? Please send them back if you're done with them. I've been asked to speak at the nearby grade school's recruitment assembly on National Convert a Nubile Youth to Homosexuality Day, and you just can't expect kids to learn about the joys of non-procreative pervsex from books or handouts anymore.

    Lazy little shits.

    (No trolling. Not that I care if you go into someone else's house and crap on their floor, but it would reflect poorly on me if I sent you over there to do it, so I'm not. I'm just letting you know what he thinks of most of you so that you can decide whether or not to reward him for it by paying attention to his writing. That is all.)
    naamah_darling: The right-side canines of a wolf's skull; the upper canine is made of gold. (Gay Agenda)
    John C. Wright, aka [livejournal.com profile] johncwright.

    It is completely up to you if you want to buy books written by this guy after reading what he thinks about homosexuality.

    ETA: he deleted the original entry.

    On another note not related to the above in any way, I've got several hardcover books I don't want anymore. The books are in good shape, so I'm trying to think of a meaningful application for them. Like cutting them apart and using them to compose stories about gay perverts fucking. Or should I make them into hollow book boxes to hold my rosary of anal beads and my baby Jesus butt-plug? What do you all think?

    In the meantime, I really have to make an appointment to assrape a dead goat with a crucifix strap-on in front of some schoolchildren. Like, soon. I have to commit obscene and corrupting acts or my pervert card lapses and I won't be able to get in on all the good cocaine-fueled mule-fucking pedophilia and abortion parties. I hear Hillary Clinton goes to those, and that she's a real cougar. Grrrowl.

    Also, whoever has my homosex indoctrination DVDs? Please send them back if you're done with them. I've been asked to speak at the nearby grade school's recruitment assembly on National Convert a Nubile Youth to Homosexuality Day, and you just can't expect kids to learn about the joys of non-procreative pervsex from books or handouts anymore.

    Lazy little shits.

    (No trolling. Not that I care if you go into someone else's house and crap on their floor, but it would reflect poorly on me if I sent you over there to do it, so I'm not. I'm just letting you know what he thinks of most of you so that you can decide whether or not to reward him for it by paying attention to his writing. That is all.)
    naamah_darling: The right-side canines of a wolf's skull; the upper canine is made of gold. (Warning: Death Ray)
    The second letter, because I couldn't let the top 10 results for "homosexuality" thing pass without mention:

    To: ecr@amazon.com

    Subject: More unacceptability.

    To whom it may concern, yet again,

    I have already written once expressing my displeasure, but I feel I must do so once more.

    Are you aware that A Parent's Guide to Preventing Homosexuality by Joseph Nicolosi and Linda Ames Nicolosi is now the first title to appear if one searches for "homosexuality" on Amazon? Are you seriously telling me that a book about preventing homosexuality -- which is not possible -- is somehow an improvement over whatever book would have been in that spot had your new policy not gone into place?

    Do you not see how incredibly, deeply offensive that is?

    Are you on drugs? Stupid? Uncaring?

    What is your problem?

    What?

    You want to censor "adult" content? FINE. I demand that you censor, equally, such "adult" content as Biblically-justified hate. I demand that you remove works that justify using one's own religious beliefs to stifle or harm another, or that deny humanity to other human beings based on something that is not a choice, and even if it were, would do no harm.

    I demand that out of "consideration," you protect your customers from having to look at that bile-filled hate. I demand that I and others like me not have to look at it. You want to cater to your "entire customer base," you need to start catering to people who don't want to see that hateful religious crap, too. I find it every bit as offensive as others find the idea of two consenting adults of the same gender sharing pleasure. Where are my censored search rankings? When will books by atheists top the list of searches for "Jesus Christ?" When are you going to fix this?

    I did notice that not all of the books in the top ten results for "homosexuality" are unsupportive, but the majority of them deal with it from a Biblical perspective. Must that be the central frame of reference for something that has nothing to do with the Bible? Must you encourage the incredibly narrow-minded and lackwitted worldview that implies that the only reason we should talk about gays is to wonder what Jesus would have thought of them, or whether God will let those icky homosexuals into heaven along with the rest of us Godfearing folk?

    You don't want teens running across Heather Corinna's incredibly well-researched and sympathetic S.E.X., yet you have no problem with teens running across You Don't Have to Be Gay: Hope and Freedom for Males Struggling With Homosexuality or for Those Who Know of Someone Who Is by Jeff Konrad?

    What the ever loving hell is wrong with you?!

    At this point, you have lost my business. My husband and I have a Prime account with you. Again, I invite you to check our purchase history, which is well over $2,000 in the last six months alone. You've lost that business, and at this point the only possible way for you to regain it would be for you to issue a formal apology for your heinous, shortsighted, bigoted, and offensive behavior.

    If this is what you think of us -- of gays, lesbians, transgendered folk, straight allies, those who are questioning, and those people who simply have functioning consciences and the sense of propriety God gave a roadkill possum -- if this is what you think of us, we will take our filthy homosexual lucre elsewhere, and you can go to hell.

    I do not know how to make my displeasure any more clear.

    Yours without any goodwill whatsoever,

    -- Amanda Gannon

    ***

    Amazon customer service email: ecr@amazon.com

    Customer service phone: 1-800-201-7575

    CEO contacts: Jeffrey Bezos.
    1200 12th Avenue South
    Seattle, Washington 98144-2734
    United States
    Phone: 206-266-1000
    Fax: 206-622-2405


    Drop the Google bomb with Amazon Rank.
    naamah_darling: The right-side canines of a wolf's skull; the upper canine is made of gold. (Warning: Death Ray)
    The second letter, because I couldn't let the top 10 results for "homosexuality" thing pass without mention:

    To: ecr@amazon.com

    Subject: More unacceptability.

    To whom it may concern, yet again,

    I have already written once expressing my displeasure, but I feel I must do so once more.

    Are you aware that A Parent's Guide to Preventing Homosexuality by Joseph Nicolosi and Linda Ames Nicolosi is now the first title to appear if one searches for "homosexuality" on Amazon? Are you seriously telling me that a book about preventing homosexuality -- which is not possible -- is somehow an improvement over whatever book would have been in that spot had your new policy not gone into place?

    Do you not see how incredibly, deeply offensive that is?

    Are you on drugs? Stupid? Uncaring?

    What is your problem?

    What?

    You want to censor "adult" content? FINE. I demand that you censor, equally, such "adult" content as Biblically-justified hate. I demand that you remove works that justify using one's own religious beliefs to stifle or harm another, or that deny humanity to other human beings based on something that is not a choice, and even if it were, would do no harm.

    I demand that out of "consideration," you protect your customers from having to look at that bile-filled hate. I demand that I and others like me not have to look at it. You want to cater to your "entire customer base," you need to start catering to people who don't want to see that hateful religious crap, too. I find it every bit as offensive as others find the idea of two consenting adults of the same gender sharing pleasure. Where are my censored search rankings? When will books by atheists top the list of searches for "Jesus Christ?" When are you going to fix this?

    I did notice that not all of the books in the top ten results for "homosexuality" are unsupportive, but the majority of them deal with it from a Biblical perspective. Must that be the central frame of reference for something that has nothing to do with the Bible? Must you encourage the incredibly narrow-minded and lackwitted worldview that implies that the only reason we should talk about gays is to wonder what Jesus would have thought of them, or whether God will let those icky homosexuals into heaven along with the rest of us Godfearing folk?

    You don't want teens running across Heather Corinna's incredibly well-researched and sympathetic S.E.X., yet you have no problem with teens running across You Don't Have to Be Gay: Hope and Freedom for Males Struggling With Homosexuality or for Those Who Know of Someone Who Is by Jeff Konrad?

    What the ever loving hell is wrong with you?!

    At this point, you have lost my business. My husband and I have a Prime account with you. Again, I invite you to check our purchase history, which is well over $2,000 in the last six months alone. You've lost that business, and at this point the only possible way for you to regain it would be for you to issue a formal apology for your heinous, shortsighted, bigoted, and offensive behavior.

    If this is what you think of us -- of gays, lesbians, transgendered folk, straight allies, those who are questioning, and those people who simply have functioning consciences and the sense of propriety God gave a roadkill possum -- if this is what you think of us, we will take our filthy homosexual lucre elsewhere, and you can go to hell.

    I do not know how to make my displeasure any more clear.

    Yours without any goodwill whatsoever,

    -- Amanda Gannon

    ***

    Amazon customer service email: ecr@amazon.com

    Customer service phone: 1-800-201-7575

    CEO contacts: Jeffrey Bezos.
    1200 12th Avenue South
    Seattle, Washington 98144-2734
    United States
    Phone: 206-266-1000
    Fax: 206-622-2405


    Drop the Google bomb with Amazon Rank.
    naamah_darling: The right-side canines of a wolf's skull; the upper canine is made of gold. (Gay Sex)
    Amazon has decided that books with gay, lesbian, and feminist content are "adult books," and as such, we need to be protected from them.

    When an affected writer asked Amazon about this, he received this in reply:

    In consideration of our entire customer base, we exclude "adult" material from appearing in some searches and best seller lists. Since these lists are generated using sales ranks, adult materials must also be excluded from that feature.

    Hence, if you have further questions, kindly write back to us.

    Best regards,

    Ashlyn D
    Member Services
    Amazon.com Advantage


    Here is a list of affected titles.

    Amazon searches for "homosexuality" bring up some interesting titles. The very first book to appear is A Parent's Guide to Preventing Homosexuality by Joseph Nicolosi and Linda Ames Nicolosi. Amazon feels this is less harmful?

    Dwell on that.

    Moving on, Can Homosexuality Be Healed? by Francis MacNutt and You Don't Have to Be Gay: Hope and Freedom for Males Struggling With Homosexuality or for Those Who Know of Someone Who Is by Jeff Konrad also appear within the top ten.

    I am with Smart Bitches, Trashy Books: "What, I ask, the fucking fuckhell?"

    A link roundup.

    Massive thread derail in comments on this Amazon post. Go contribute if you have an account, or simply click "Yes" below the comments to signify that you agree. My comment is at the top of page two, I think.

    Amazon customer service email: ecr@amazon.com

    Customer service phone: 1-800-201-7575

    CEO contact:
    Jeffrey Bezos.
    1200 12th Avenue South
    Seattle, Washington 98144-2734
    United States
    Phone: 206-266-1000
    Fax: 206-622-2405


    I wrote them a letter, and will probably write another. Want text? Here, have text:

    ***

    TO: ecr@amazon.com

    SUBJECT: Unacceptable, unacceptable, unacceptable.

    To whom it may concern,

    I am writing to inform you that I will not be ordering from Amazon until such time as you cease excluding GLBT and other "adult" material from appearing in bestseller and search lists, and until their sales rankings have been restored.

    I have been very pleased with Amazon until now. This pleasure has been reflected in the amount of money I and my husband spend with Amazon. I'll wait while you go look at the numbers.

    Seen them?

    You aren't getting any more of it until you start treating us like adults.

    Your backwards policies are censoring the appearance GLBT books on bestseller, search, and ranking lists, as well as negative affecting heterosexual adult erotica as well. It is also negatively affecting YA novels that treat with the subject sympathetically -- books that, far from "corrupting," could arguably do a great deal of good to a child suffering a crisis of sexual identity. None of this is acceptable.

    You, through someone called "Ashlyn D," claim this is "in consideration for [your] entire customer base."

    How utterly revolting, patronizing, and stupid. For shame!

    I do not need such consideration. No adult needs such consideration. Are we children? Do squalling infants make up the majority of your customer base? Do you honestly believe that grown men and women need to be protected from the gay and lesbian menace? Are you truly that shortsighted, backwards, and stupid? Disappointing. Disappointing and nauseating.

    I am bisexual. I'm happy to say that, because there is no shame in it. Yet I, and people like me, are not being treated like humans, but more like something the cat accidentally did outside the box and which now needs to be covered over or flushed away. Therefore I don't believe I need to be part of your "entire customer base."

    I will be announcing on my online journal, which as of this morning has 1,495 subscribers, that they should not be part of your customer base, either.

    If the lowest common denominator is all you cater to, the lowest common denominator is all you will be left with. If you truly think your "entire customer base" is composed of morons and bigots and pearl-clutching ninnies, I am just as glad not to be a part of it, and I suspect my good readers, being people of conscience and intelligence, will agree.

    And apparently, your message to us would be "good riddance." That's pretty much the only way I can interpret this flagrant display of bigotry and privilege: as a great, flashing sign that says "FAGS NOT WELCOME."

    Well, we're gone, along with all our heterosexual allies; gone until such time as you reverse this disgusting and pointless practice. I look forward to hearing that you have done so.

    I also hope that you will be thoughtful enough to provide an apology, since gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgendered people are, in fact, moral human beings with functioning emotions, and who really do not care to have our interests marginalized or swept under the rug like some sort of revolting secret.

    If you have an explanation for this pathetic foolishness, I should like to hear that, too. Feel free to respond. I would love to know how you plan to defend this nonsense. Please be very specific about what you fear will happen if people run across GLBT titles in searches and lists. Also, since the literature needs to be hidden away, I would like to know just how dangerous and corrupting and horrible you consider me to be.

    Emphatically and disgustedly yours,

    Amanda A. Gannon

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